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Games_Wanderer said: Well, I really doubt that the story is going to conclude in 3 episodes from now, so unless Sotsu lasts for another three months period, there might be a third season of the Oyashiro Satoko show. Krunchy said: It seems like it's impossible to close this up in 3 epizodes. If they gonna do another season or make more episodes I may turn a blind eye on these recaps in Sotsu. It seems like gou first half was question arc, 2nd half was answer arc and sotsu is again a question arc. Wtc universe always been one big recap, I just hope it will payoff later. Truth be told, this really and sincerely doesn't need another season or more episodes. Higurashi Gou was 24 episodes and Sotsu is 15 (at least as of now). That is 39 episodes. Compare that to the 51 episodes of the original two seasons + Nekogoroshi-hen. It's already taking them almost 40 episodes to tell like 5% or less of a story in scope and depth. |
WatchTillTandava said: Games_Wanderer said: Well, I really doubt that the story is going to conclude in 3 episodes from now, so unless Sotsu lasts for another three months period, there might be a third season of the Oyashiro Satoko show. Krunchy said: It seems like it's impossible to close this up in 3 epizodes. If they gonna do another season or make more episodes I may turn a blind eye on these recaps in Sotsu. It seems like gou first half was question arc, 2nd half was answer arc and sotsu is again a question arc. Wtc universe always been one big recap, I just hope it will payoff later. Truth be told, this really and sincerely doesn't need another season or more episodes. Higurashi Gou was 24 episodes and Sotsu is 15 (at least as of now). That is 39 episodes. Compare that to the 51 episodes of the original two seasons + Nekogoroshi-hen. It's already taking them almost 40 episodes to tell like 5% or less of a story in scope and depth. This episode clearly indicates the "final showdown" is about to happen with Hanyuu showing up to take on the witch. Excluding the final episode, which will likely be "and they all lived happily ever after", they have 2 episodes to show the final battle between Hanyuu and the witch, and Satoko and Rika. I suspect it will be the witch who is dealt with first, leaving Satoko vs Rika (a much more personal battle) for the penultimate episode. Then the last episode will be there to wrap things up. 15 is an unusual episode count. Most anime are 12 or 24 episodes, with some freedom of 2 - 3 episodes. If there was a second season planned, this would probably be a standard 12 parter. That it's 15 implies it is the end and they pushed for additional episodes to wrap things up. I don't think there is enough material in the story to justify another season. Keichi and the rest aren't playing a significant role in this story, so all there is really is Rika Vs Satoko and Hanyuu vs the witch. Hanyuu is already closing in on the witch at the end of this episode, and we are almost back at the present-gun scene where Rika discovers Satoko is the villain, with only the gut-dragging scene left as far as reusable material goes. I don't know how realistic the chances are of this series getting a movie climax. While I couldn't imagine another full series, I could definitely see them dragging out the final battle into an hour and a half. (On that note, imagine if they did 3 movies like Madoka where 2 of the 3 are recap movies... Recap inception). While I would like to see a full Higurashi movie, having to wait months or a year to see the resolution to this would just piss me off. I want it to be over now. |
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| I'm not sure why I can't get used to watching less than 5 minutes of actual content in a 20 or so minutes episode of Sotsu, but, here I am still baffled. Amazing. Also, was that a plothole I saw? In wata the sword didn't exist, and yet now it materializes out of nowhere. Writer-Ex-Machina? |
SkyhighCFC said: Am I now? Maybe I am.- You're kind of starting to sound like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists here. Why would he blatantly lie in a live interview about his involvement in writing the story? I won't deny it's a possibility that he's lying but the chances of that are very slim. Did you see his interview at the very beginning? About GOU being a Remake? Did you believe that? It was a lie btw. This guy is more or less known for lying. Do you outright believe and take as face value everything he says until proven false? His masterpieces all revolve around lies, deception and misunderstanding. It is his life. Nothing he says is said in Red unless it is said in Red. I won't deny that it's a possibility he has been extensively writing this, but it damn sure doesn't look like that. - In the first episode of Higurashi Kai, there's a scene where Rika offers to give Rena a syringe shot to suppress her going to L5. When Rena declines the offer saying "who would take such a creepy looking syringe" Rika says that "this world is doomed anyway, I'm not interested in this Hinamizawa anymore" and that she'll "go look for the next one". This implies to me that she still had hope and never gave up completely, but she was quicker to give up on specific worlds where certain red flags were raised. It's hard to define her level of giving up. Did she give up completely? Does she just give up certain types of fragments easily or from the beginning? We can't really tell.However, I don't know what level of translation was used, but as far as we only take the english. The above scene Rika saying when Rena rejects the syringe "This world is doomed anyway". That would imply the world was already doomed when Rika came to offer the syringe, meaning she came regardless of that. If she came to help Rena regardless of whether the world was doomed or not, her objective was something different. Hence this can't be an argument of her not having given up on herself. She could have given up on herself, but perhaps she still tries to do something in order to not have her friends go nuts. Maybe the world is doomed because the happy days are already gone. Maybe she's ready on going to next Hinamizawa where happy times still awaits her. As for a sequel contradicting the OG, I'll say this... If the author unknowingly contradicts his own work, then it's obviously a writing flaw. Wouldn't call it a retcon if it wasn't intentional. If an author makes a change that contradicts the OG on purpose, I'd consider that a retcon. You would hope that in the 2nd case it would improve the overall story by getting rid of some inconsistency or plot convenience but this isn't always the case Unknowingly or on purpose, I guess that's hard for us to figure out which it is. Tho one would expect that only minor things would be changed unknowingly.But this is what I ment by "sticking with source material", if the OG is something we all appreciate and love, I don't fancy that it gets changed whether it was on purpose or not. But I guess it all boils down on whether you appreciate the author more, or the story made by that author. Chargecoulomb said: The closest thing that would come to my mind would be Dragon Ball / Super.Pretty sure when the writer does that, and it ends up effecting the series negatively, their credebility as series creator is lost. I dont think weve ever had a death i the authour in anime/Manga. The closest I can think of is the reaction of many hardcore fans to Rebuild of Evangelion ending. I honestly don't know how much Toriyama was working on it, but it kept having quite a few minor things which contradicted the OG and it definitely kept eating up the credibility. If he really was writing it himself, I guess those would just be 'not caring enough' for few minor things or simply forgetting some stuff. Interestingly though we can draw a connection between DBS and GouSotsu, both of which were having Anime & Manga published at the same time, both of which had clear differences from one another. Only makes one to question more, how much the author itself is writing/supervising/whatever the story. |
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SkyhighCFC said: Me liking it or not has nothing to do with it ._.- Yea you kind of are...no offense. Lying about the nature of the story or certain elements is very different to lying about being involved in the story altogether. If you don't like where he's taken the story, that's fine. But don't start creating conspiracy theories cuz you don't like it. He lied before, he has a history of lying, what proof is there he's telling the truth? You can't prove he's telling the truth, nor can I prove he's lying. Had I suggested the same about the Remake thing before we saw the result, would you have "accused" me of conspiracy theories back then aswell? - Given what we saw in Kai, I think it's more of she gives up certain fragments that look doomed, hence the "I'll move on to the next Hinamizawa" comment. When Rika said "this world is finished", she's talking about that specific fragment because in her eyes it was already too late to stop a tragedy from occurring. And as someone else said earlier in the thread, she offered these syringes out of habit, not because she thought anything would really come of it. "in her eyes it was already too late to stop a tragedy from occurring", yes that's a good point. But what is that tragedy in her eyes? Her death, or the HS manifesting?It's possible she was handing out the syringes out of habit, but as you say "not because she thought anything would really come of it" there's two layers to that. It definitely wouldn't help with her own demise, but it could help with the HS tragedy. As far as I remember, she was able to draw distinction between the two, pretty sure she was explaining about it alongside the other rules. Giving up on one doesn't mean giving up on the other and vice versa. There's plenty of Bernkastel poems referencing these events, if you haven't read them, do give them a read, they're pretty good. |
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Hulio said: Me liking it or not has nothing to do with it ._. He lied before, he has a history of lying, what proof is there he's telling the truth? You can't prove he's telling the truth, nor can I prove he's lying. Had I suggested the same about the Remake thing before we saw the result, would you have "accused" me of conspiracy theories back then aswell? Well... He did let Sotsugou happen. We can say that for certain. Anyone remeber when Ryu said that Higurashi Hou would be the last Higu. About how they were gonna say goodbye to Hinamaizawa and all that jazz. |
ChargecoulombSep 11, 2021 2:25 PM
Si1verR0se said: Chargecoulomb said: Anyone remeber when Ryu said that Higurashi Hou would be the last Higu. About how they were gonna say goodbye to Hinamaizawa and all that jazz. No, but I remember him saying "Higurashi will never be completely over. So I may write a story about Keichi's kids" and "Characters of Higurashi could fit in any setting" lmao. Tell me about "saying goodbye to Hinamizawa". I think that maybe he thought that Ciconia is not that good in terms of money income, so he decided to continue(drag and squeeze) Higurashi(because as we all know Umineko is very contoversial atleast in JP) for more cash. I think Ryukishi07 has become similar to the wolf boy now. He has basically lied so much that no one will believe him even if he says the truth. I generally do not know if he was lying or not when he said he wrote Gou/Sotsu, because it's difficult to believe that this was written by him, who wrote such beautiful stories like the original Higurashi and Umineko. But you know, I won't question whether it was written by him or not, because regardless of who wrote it, it doesn't change my negative opinion on Gou/Sotsu. It's saddening to see him using Higurashi as a cash cow. I think the fact that they falsely advertised this as a remake and claimed that it was "safe for newcomers" (when the show itself proves that it isn't) makes it clear that they're doing it for money, even if it ruins the new viewers' experience with Higurashi. They have also been doing all these pointless answer arcs when most of the answers were too obvious from the start, and I was genuinely hoping this would be a brand new arc starting from the gun scene, but it turned out to be an unnecessary answer arc again. |
NipahNanodesuSep 11, 2021 10:12 PM
| Watching this story unfolding is starting to feel to be as much struggle and pain as it is for Rika to get through the different worldlines. It feels like I have lost all my interest in where it is leading. |
IshitatesoSep 11, 2021 11:08 PM
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| Now feel Hanyuu's wrath! I hope that will be better than good Satoko vs evil Satoko. Seriously Satoko has too much luck, she can do everything, anytime. I'm glad that Rika found the sword piece and how it was shown why the sword was gone in Gou. Considering the remaining episodes, it should end with a surprise. Give Satoko what she deserves, it should feel so good to see her fall after all the episodes showing her as super villain. |
FabienneSep 12, 2021 9:42 AM
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| Theres an inconsistency, or a plothole? How the heck did Keichii remember past worlds in Minagoroshi? In SotsuGou the implication is that Euas power + The fact that theyre looping in a single fragement cause the loop memory accumilation. However in the OG Hanyuu and Rika dont loop in the same fragment. They jump from one to another. Unless Hanyuu also carries Keichiis memories with her, Minagoroshi K1 should not remember stuff the Onikakushi K1 did. Since they exist in different fragments. And dont start with that 'close to the looper' excuse, if thats the case Satoko should have remembered stuff constantly. It never happened to her once. Disregarding Hanyuu, Higu has simmilar of problems / Plotholes/ Inconsistencies like Umineko. - Unless this turns out to be Bernkastels coveted logic error. Lol. |
ChargecoulombSep 12, 2021 11:10 AM
Chargecoulomb said: Theres an inconsistency, or a plothole? How the heck did Keichii remember past worlds in Minagoroshi? In SotsuGou the implication is that Euas power + The fact that theyre looping in a single fragement cause the loop memory accumilation. However in the OG Hanyuu and Rika dont loop in the same fragment. They jump from one to another. Unless Hanyuu also carries Keichiis memories with her, Minagoroshi K1 should not remember stuff the Onikakushi K1 did. Since they exist in different fragments. And dont start with that 'close to the looper' excuse, if thats the case Satoko should have remembered stuff constantly. It never happened to her once. Disregarding Hanyuu, Higu has simmilar of problems / Plotholes/ Inconsistencies like Umineko. - Unless this turns out to be Bernkastels coveted logic error. Lol. When was it said that it is the same fragment? Pretty sure that the whole point of Satoko killing Rika first is to be able to follow her to the next fragment. And the "close to the looper" is an Eua thing because "she is stronger than Hanyuu" so teh effects are as well(yeah know it was never stated in the OG that this is why they remember). Which is still bullshit since Teppei is nowhere close to her in comparison with LITERARY THE REST OF THE VILLAGE + Ooishi. |
Ishitateso said: Watching this story unfolding is starting to feel to be as much struggle and pain as it is for Rika to get through the different worldlines. It feels like I have lost all my interest in where it is leading. It would be nice to be able to have the confidence to say that was a deliberate and bold artistic decision on the creative team's part - The ultimate culmination of a true meta experience: Higurashi 4D. Chargecoulomb said: Theres an inconsistency, or a plothole? How the heck did Keichii remember past worlds in Minagoroshi? In SotsuGou the implication is that Euas power + The fact that theyre looping in a single fragement cause the loop memory accumilation. However in the OG Hanyuu and Rika dont loop in the same fragment. They jump from one to another. Unless Hanyuu also carries Keichiis memories with her, Minagoroshi K1 should not remember stuff the Onikakushi K1 did. Since they exist in different fragments. And dont start with that 'close to the looper' excuse, if thats the case Satoko should have remembered stuff constantly. It never happened to her once. Disregarding Hanyuu, Higu has simmilar of problems / Plotholes/ Inconsistencies like Umineko. - Unless this turns out to be Bernkastels coveted logic error. Lol. Concern about all these types of plot holes can easily go out the window once you start treating Gou and Sotsu as a whimsical jaunt and sequel navel-gazing exploration of a theoretical scenario more in line with the Kira and Outbreak OVAs than a direct continuation of the original story (although Kira was previously my least favorite entry by far, but came to the conclusion weeks ago it was also a lot more "fun" than this). |
WatchTillTandavaSep 12, 2021 1:14 PM
PinkShibaInu said: I've been ignoring how stupid the whole Teppei is closer to Satoko than everyone else thing because everything here so far can be explained, but explained in really obnoxious ways. I'm guessing this is just a case of "blood is thicker than water" bullshit because they're family, even though they're not even blood related. If being a stepfather's brother isn't specifically mentioned in these seasons (Gou & Sotsu) of the anime, then it's probably just viewed as a detail "newcomers" aren't supposed to know so it can't contradict anything if they omit it. |
WatchTillTandava said: I know GouSotsou has been unfair with pretty much everything but yeesh...what a convenient thing to avoid mentioning.....PinkShibaInu said: I've been ignoring how stupid the whole Teppei is closer to Satoko than everyone else thing because everything here so far can be explained, but explained in really obnoxious ways. I'm guessing this is just a case of "blood is thicker than water" bullshit because they're family, even though they're not even blood related. If being a stepfather's brother isn't specifically mentioned in these seasons (Gou & Sotsu) of the anime, then it's probably just viewed as a detail "newcomers" aren't supposed to know so it can't contradict anything if they omit it. |
SkyhighCFC said: I don't think he ever lied about making a remake which wouldn't actually be a remake after all, so I guess first would be the first time right?But I don't think he's ever lied about working on a project. Correct me if I'm wrong. But yeah, the only proof we currently have is Devil's Proof, and that's not much to go with. - I think a tragedy in her eyes is one where her friends don't survive or obviously if she dies. She probably assumed that Rena was too far gone at this point, or that this loop was already destined for a tragedy. Yeah, I think it's the latter. Would be funny if Rena refusing the Vax would instantly make Rika lose her hope.I've read a few of the Bernkastel poems but I'll read the rest cuz you've piqued my interest How you liked 'em?Too bad the Anime didn't implement them as hints, but then again, there wasn't much time to think anyway. |
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ssjokg said: WatchTillTandava said: I know GouSotsou has been unfair with pretty much everything but yeesh...what a convenient thing to avoid mentioning.....If being a stepfather's brother isn't specifically mentioned in these seasons (Gou & Sotsu) of the anime, then it's probably just viewed as a detail "newcomers" aren't supposed to know so it can't contradict anything if they omit it. They have left out a lot of things, so much for being "newcomer friendly". |
Hulio said: SkyhighCFC said: I don't think he ever lied about making a remake which wouldn't actually be a remake after all, so I guess first would be the first time right?But I don't think he's ever lied about working on a project. Correct me if I'm wrong. But yeah, the only proof we currently have is Devil's Proof, and that's not much to go with. - I think a tragedy in her eyes is one where her friends don't survive or obviously if she dies. She probably assumed that Rena was too far gone at this point, or that this loop was already destined for a tragedy. Yeah, I think it's the latter. Would be funny if Rena refusing the Vax would instantly make Rika lose her hope.I've read a few of the Bernkastel poems but I'll read the rest cuz you've piqued my interest How you liked 'em?Too bad the Anime didn't implement them as hints, but then again, there wasn't much time to think anyway. The whole remake thing was spread around because the trailer conveniently showed only og "remade" scenes and the trailer ended with Keichi's famous last words from Onikakushi. You can't say that they, including Ryuukishi, didn't lie to us. |
ssjokg said: Hulio said: I don't think he ever lied about making a remake which wouldn't actually be a remake after all, so I guess first would be the first time right? But yeah, the only proof we currently have is Devil's Proof, and that's not much to go with. Yeah, I think it's the latter. Would be funny if Rena refusing the Vax would instantly make Rika lose her hope. How you liked 'em? Too bad the Anime didn't implement them as hints, but then again, there wasn't much time to think anyway. The whole remake thing was spread around because the trailer conveniently showed only og "remade" scenes and the trailer ended with Keichi's famous last words from Onikakushi. You can't say that they, including Ryuukishi, didn't lie to us. They also played the first opening at the end of Gou's first episode. There were a few hints to say that it wasn't a remake, but the staff clearly wanted people to think that it was. |
NipahNanodesu said: ssjokg said: The whole remake thing was spread around because the trailer conveniently showed only og "remade" scenes and the trailer ended with Keichi's famous last words from Onikakushi. You can't say that they, including Ryuukishi, didn't lie to us. They also played the first opening at the end of Gou's first episode. There were a few hints to say that it wasn't a remake, but the staff clearly wanted people to think that it was. Tbh that could be a homage even in a totally different Higurashi story. |
ssjokg said: NipahNanodesu said: They also played the first opening at the end of Gou's first episode. There were a few hints to say that it wasn't a remake, but the staff clearly wanted people to think that it was. Tbh that could be a homage even in a totally different Higurashi story. True, but they've been advertising it as a remake since the start and the opening song playing only made more people think it was a remake (until Rika was shown in abnormally red eyes). |
| Bugs me how they're starting to censor stuff that wasn't censored before. Well at least we finally learned stuff about Hanyuu. |
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| Based on previews and such. It's highly highly unlikely that we'll get any new content next ep. Also, people are getting hyped about Hanyuushin fighting Eua, but the OP already spoiled her getting beaten. Also Eua.   Hanyuu comes back to bait and hype people -> Will probably end up doing nothing. |
ChargecoulombSep 13, 2021 11:27 AM
| I remember when Featherine was calm, collected and almost bored when fighting.....her only onesided fight. Then again, I still have hope that Eua is just an Umineko bait and has nothing to do with her. |
Chargecoulomb said: Based on previews and such. It's highly highly unlikely that we'll get any new content next ep. Also, people are getting hyped about Hanyuushin fighting Eua, but the OP already spoiled her getting beaten. Also Eua. Hanyuu comes back to bait and hype people -> Will probably end up doing nothing. Oh no, I hope it won't be as underwhelming as when good Satoko tried to stop her evil self. if Hanyuu can't win this, an good ending is more far away than it already was. I didn't keep watching this mediocre show to witness a winning Satoko lol. |
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Fabienne said: Chargecoulomb said: Based on previews and such. It's highly highly unlikely that we'll get any new content next ep. Also, people are getting hyped about Hanyuushin fighting Eua, but the OP already spoiled her getting beaten. Also Eua. Hanyuu comes back to bait and hype people -> Will probably end up doing nothing. Oh no, I hope it won't be as underwhelming as when good Satoko tried to stop her evil self. if Hanyuu can't win this, an good ending is more far away than it already was. I didn't keep watching this mediocre show to witness a winning Satoko lol. Pretty sure Satoko will still "win" in some way, they'll just make it so that she's actually good, that she never meant to kill anyone and that it's completely Eua's fault for manipulating her (which is total bs), and Rika will easily forgive her I'm not expecting a well thought ending with a consistent plot after all the plot conveniences (and inconsistencies) Sotsu had lol |
Fabienne said: Hope? There is still hope on this?Oh no, I hope it won't be as underwhelming as when good Satoko tried to stop her evil self. if Hanyuu can't win this, an good ending is more far away than it already was. I didn't keep watching this mediocre show to witness a winning Satoko lol. Hope is only an Illusion. Too bad, as you won't be getting what you seek. Satoko will definitely... no... most certainly "win". On the miraculous off-chance that Satoko actually gets what she deserves, (beyond some logic error shenanigans) I'm willing to give this +1 rating. No, it is a bet so let's make it +2. |
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| Hold on. So the Hanyuu that told Rika to deal with stuff herself wasn't the real Hanyuu? The flickering and stuff meant that she was probably Eua anyway. Lol, so Eua got so bored that she decided to give Rika the ability to remember her deaths. Actions speak louder than 'Youre so entertaining eviltoko'. Hold on, Hold on Eua/Featherine/Ikuuko is Ryuukishis self insert OC don't steal. So If Eua is bored... is Ryuukishi telling us that he is bored of this shit. Maybe Satoko dreamt up this whole thing while she was stuck in remedial classes. I wish this would happen, just so it can piss people off. |
ChargecoulombSep 14, 2021 10:41 AM
Chargecoulomb said: Hey...Hold on. So the Hanyuu that told Rika to deal with stuff herself wasn't the real Hanyuu? The flickering and stuff meant that she was probably Eua anyway. Lol, so Eua got so bored that she decided to give Rika the ability to remember her deaths. Actions speak louder than 'Youre so entertaining eviltoko'. Hold on, Hold on Eua/Featherine/Ikuuko is Ryuukishis self insert OC don't steal. So If Eua is bored... is Ryuukishi telling us that he is bored of this shit. Maybe Satoko dreamt up this whole thing while she was stuck in remedial classes. I wish this would happen, just so it can piss people off. On on hand this whole thing would be more pointless than Rosa sleeping with other men....on the other hand it means that the characters we loved werent ruined. It was just Satoko on a very weird dream. |
| It seems latest manga chapter makes it pretty clear that the Satoko bear trap was a fluke on Rikas part, If the next ep shows that the bear was indeed an accident on Rikas part, it's just more proof of Rika being an Idiot in Gou. The Tataridamashi K1 hallucination - Satoko daydream thing was removed. (Pointing to how it was just bait to keep people thinking that there was a deeper mystery than there was until Sotsu) there was some back and forth about this in the threads. Now you have proof that it's pointless.. Hopefully the Sotsu manga also trims the unappealing fat. If the same Mangaka does it. Huge if not most parts of Oni, Wata, and Tatari kashi will probably be cut off. Heck they might even show everything in a few pages and skip directly to the events of this ep. |
ChargecoulombSep 15, 2021 3:23 AM
Chargecoulomb said: Thank you for the reminder of how much better the Gou manga is and while I have no doubt that the Sotsu manga will have a better direction as well, I honestly couldn't be bothered to read it. The anime is an exhausting experience as it is and I just want punch everyone in the anime staff for their "extraordinary" vision to adapt the original script. Then again, the script might as well sucks with barely any details of the events that are happening and the mangaka took a lot of liberty to make it a better work no matter how pointless as it may be considering the major plot points are questionable at the very least.It seems latest manga chapter makes it pretty clear that the Satoko bear trap was a fluke on Rikas part, If the next ep shows that the bear was indeed an accident on Rikas part, it's just more proof of Rika being an Idiot in Gou. The Tataridamashi K1 hallucination - Satoko daydream thing was removed. (Pointing to how it was just bait to keep people thinking that there was a deeper mystery than there was until Sotsu) there was some back and forth about this in the threads. Now you have proof that it's pointless.. Hopefully the Sotsu manga also trims the unappealing fat. If the same Mangaka does it. Huge if not most parts of Oni, Wata, and Tatari kashi will probably be cut off. Heck they might even show everything in a few pages and skip directly to the events of this ep. |
LockeGran said: Chargecoulomb said: Thank you for the reminder of how much better the Gou manga is and while I have no doubt that the Sotsu manga will have a better direction as well, I honestly couldn't be bothered to read it. The anime is an exhausting experience as it is and I just want punch everyone in the anime staff for their "extraordinary" vision to adapt the original script. Then again, the script might as well sucks with barely any details of the events that are happening and the mangaka took a lot of liberty to make it a better work no matter how pointless as it may be considering the major plot points are questionable at the very least.It seems latest manga chapter makes it pretty clear that the Satoko bear trap was a fluke on Rikas part, If the next ep shows that the bear was indeed an accident on Rikas part, it's just more proof of Rika being an Idiot in Gou. The Tataridamashi K1 hallucination - Satoko daydream thing was removed. (Pointing to how it was just bait to keep people thinking that there was a deeper mystery than there was until Sotsu) there was some back and forth about this in the threads. Now you have proof that it's pointless.. Hopefully the Sotsu manga also trims the unappealing fat. If the same Mangaka does it. Huge if not most parts of Oni, Wata, and Tatari kashi will probably be cut off. Heck they might even show everything in a few pages and skip directly to the events of this ep. Unfortunately, it seems the mangaka probably isnt allowed to change the overall plot. The most that is allowed is some timeline changes. Then again the manga doesnt really treat Gou as a sequel. Somehow the manga feels like a what if story. Maybe that was the intention. At least the manga follows Umineko in being the definitive version of its respective story. |
SkyhighCFC said: I was replying to Hulio regarding the marketing of Gou.ssjokg said: The whole remake thing was spread around because the trailer conveniently showed only og "remade" scenes and the trailer ended with Keichi's famous last words from Onikakushi. You can't say that they, including Ryuukishi, didn't lie to us. I literally never said Ryuukishi didn't lie. I'm saying it's a conspiracy theory at best to assume he wasn't involved in the writing for GOU/SOTSU. I dont know how much he is involved and I honestly now I dont want to know. |
Jin_uzuki said: You got your wish. Nice.It would be kino if next episode was a recap too. This would mean Sotsu could be the first anime where if you only watch the last two episodes you get approximately the same experience of someone who watched it all. Revolutionary stuff. |
| Uhh.. How did Hanyuu get her powers back? |
Dorkave said: Uhh.. How did Hanyuu get her powers back? Absorbing Fragments - its not explained why that would give her powers back, but thats what we got. Not that it matters, the only noticable change is her horn healing and her having a bigger chest. Seriously. |
ChargecoulombSep 16, 2021 6:42 PM
| This episode was >95% copy and pasted from gou... And censoring things we've already seen uncensored before? I really can't defend this anymore. |
 柵の向こうには 本当に狼などおらぬのか |
| So Hanyuu is still around....that's all the new info....let's get to the reveal already. |
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| At least the ending was interesting. |
| Seeing all them murders in conjunction can be addicting. |
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